WORLD EXCLUSIVE: PAT DOLLARD'S "YOUNG AMERICANS" TRAILER - June 6, 2006

Here's what the critics are saying:

Harry Knowles of AintItCoolNews.com says:
"I don't want to get dinged for supporting an irresponsible documentary."

Nikki Finke asks:
What The F*** Is Up With Pat Dollard?

Ellis Weiner of the Huffington Post says:
"I'm here, sipping coffee and tapping the keys in L.A., which is writer code for Los Angeles. So let's say, absent info to the contrary, that he's [Pat Dollard] a courageous patriot, and I'm an effete pussy."

One of Pat Dollard's ex-wives told the New York Times:
"He'd rather deal with a fantasy than a reality. Reality is very difficult."

Video after the jump.



Hollywood, Interrupted presents...



YOUNG AMERICANS - THE TRAILER

"More interesting than Steven Spielberg et al's latest" - Roger L. Simon

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES AND SONG LYRICS - MAY BE NSFW
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Holy shit. A documentary not made by a whiney liberal with a sneaky agenda. I'll be the first one in line. Most of the arthouse cinemas around Austin sure the hell won't play this though. It doesn't fit in to their idealogy of burrying your head in the sand and pretending if America doesn't get involved the world were dictators massacre millions doesn't exist. First in line bitches!

Posted by: Steve H at June 6, 2006 02:46 PM

So protesting the war means you are against the troops? What a fucking joke. Talk about a sneaky agenda.
Yeah I agree most people probably have no clue whats going on over in Iraq and HS and College kids are completely apathetic when it comes to world news and events but some of the images on the trailer when the song was screaming "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU" were just down right retarded.

Posted by: Rocky D at June 6, 2006 03:56 PM

Nice video but why do you say fuck Spain?

Posted by: Carlos at June 6, 2006 04:17 PM

I'm assuming "fuck spain" b/c they pulled their troops out soon after the train bombings in Madrid?

Posted by: Rocky D at June 6, 2006 04:43 PM

Fuckin'A!! Goddamn civ fucks got no idea what the fuck reality is. And you think you can tell troops how to do the fucking mission?Clueless.

Posted by: 2Hotel9 at June 6, 2006 06:02 PM

Just had Wifey watch this. She is disturbed. She has lived with me 22 years. All this time I have tried to impart this very basic message. Now she begins to see it. Most excellent and perceptive. Now if you can just get people to assimilate it.

Posted by: 2Hotel9 at June 6, 2006 06:21 PM

Was it a coincidence that black people kept popping up well timed with the lyric "I aint like you"?

I feel bad for all the stupid rednecks that watch this shit, join the military, then go die in the war.

The producer of this is directly responsible for each and every one of those deaths.

Posted by: BlackAss at June 6, 2006 07:00 PM

"Very basic message".

And what is the message?!?!?!

Posted by: Rocky D at June 6, 2006 08:15 PM

Spain pulled out of the war because of a political change. The special forces that were in there wanted to stay.

Posted by: Carlos at June 6, 2006 08:19 PM

I like it because it is differently a different perspective. I think people will drop their jaw when they see this country's youth "getting off" on war and all the shit that comes with it, instead of watching some other war movie with 10 thousand hereos and how war is always a bad thing. Fuck that shit!! Those firefights were probably the greatest moments of my life. Why? Because it takes you to a place others will not go, the edge, and you come back alive and you have the privileage to live with that for the rest of your life.
I'm tired of hearing everybody bitch about the war when this is the first war that has never really effected the general public. Unless your a family member of a deployed person (which people also wont ever understand until they see their kid shipped to war) they should have nothing to say. They have the right to protest, which I admire, but morally...fuck no. That was our war and no one elses and it's a fucking honor to know that a few people were able to rise out of one of the most pathetic generations this country ever produced and actually experience what it is to sacrafice, suffer, destroy, and rebuild, ....just like the generations of our past that actually had a backbone. I don't agree with everything going on overseas but at least it was fucking ours!

Posted by: John at June 7, 2006 12:17 AM

"So protesting the war means you are against the troops?"

i'm pretty damn sure it does.

try this on for size, rocky d.-- looks like it fits to me:

"listen, you're very corageous and everything, it's just that we hate everything you're doing over there. we've got nothing but respect for you, but you're doing a terrible job. you're killing civilians. you're doing nothing but harm over there, you need to stop what you're doing and come back right now. but we love you."

does that about cover it? is that pretty much what you're trying to say? seems about right.

all i hear from you people is the bullshit about "we support the troops," yet you take every opportunity to defame anyone even remotely tied in to getting the job done over there. i have yet to see a kerry/edwards sticker and a "support the troops" sticker on the same vehicle, insignificant though that gesture may be. show me some real support for them, rocky. hell, just TELL me. i havent the slightest idea what form that support will take, however, so i wont hold my breath.

you make me sick.

Posted by: Dave at June 7, 2006 12:28 AM

The movie looks bloody brilliant. Fuck everyone here taht talks about some secret agenda of Dollard's. Simply put: this should be AWSOME.

Posted by: Lebatron [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2006 06:05 AM

Where can I download the mp3-file :)?

Posted by: August at June 7, 2006 06:24 AM

Awesome...at least there is some reality now. God Loves Marines! Semper Fi (Sgt.K)

Posted by: Sgt.K at June 7, 2006 10:26 AM

JOHN said:


ry this on for size, rocky d.-- looks like it fits to me:

"listen, you're very corageous and everything, it's just that we hate everything you're doing over there. we've got nothing but respect for you, but you're doing a terrible job. you're killing civilians. you're doing nothing but harm over there, you need to stop what you're doing and come back right now. but we love you."

does that about cover it? is that pretty much what you're trying to say? seems about right.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for giving me the biggest laugh of the year. Typical Republican Bullshit, lets take someones comments and COMPLETELY distort, exxagerate and make up our own assumptions from what they said. I mean, where in the world did you get half that shit from? hahahahah. Did I say they were doing a bad job? Did I say I hate what they're doing? Are you kidding, did you even read what I wrote?

The fact is the american public and our troops were LIED TO about why this war was started - our troops shouldn't be there in the first place. The higher ups had no post invasion plan or exit strategy in place which is costing billions of dollars and even more importantly, the lives of our troops. Sadly, despite the thoughts you'd like to wildy assume, as much as I am against a fabricated war, there is no way our troops CAN leave now. They have a job to do and they're the only ones who can finish it (the iraqi army doesn't seem up for the job just yet). So yeah, I support the troops, I want to see them all come home alive WHEN THE JOB IS DONE - but if you can't see the obvious truth that this war NEVER should have started in the first place and that our leaders have no fucking clue what to do with the shit storm they have created then you're a fucking idiot (but I've already assumed that much so thats not really a revelation to me). I have no doubt our troops are doing a fantastic job in Iraq, its their superiours who are at fault. The guys putting their lives on the line are the ones I support, not the suits and ties like Bush and Rumsfeld who have no clue what they're doing except getting Americans killed in action.

And what do John Kerry and Edwards have to do with supporting the troops? You think they DON'T support the troops? Are you an idiot? Kerry fucking SERVED in the military you douche. How many purple hearts and medals does George Bush have?

I gather from the trailer that the point of this movie is to show the american people "the real Iraq" but to say FUCK YOU to some of the people that flash across the screen and not the REAL assholes who put our troops there in the first place is just pretty dumb.

Posted by: Rocky D at June 7, 2006 12:40 PM

Wow, some twerp went to Iraq to make an MTV video featuring Marines who act just exactly like MTV frat boys, while claiming that they're not. (That's part of the pose.) Cool, dudes! Fuckin' guns and bodies and severed heads! Wow -- it's Punk'd with life-and-death consequences, and live ammo! (Or are these just the outtakes from "Jarhead"?)

This is slick marketing, but pathetic -- exactly the kind of thing the two guys at the beginning of the clip are talking about. Dollard has nothing to say but "Hey, I was in a war zone and you weren't!" Big fucking revelation. So, he sucks Marine dick. Great. I guess that's one way to Support Our Troops.

Posted by: mulwray [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 7, 2006 01:53 PM

In my eyes, as a soldier, ALL media is counterproductive in Iraq. I'm going to ignore a lot of the comments regarding an "exit strategy" or "post-invasion plan", because anyone that uses those terms hasn't the first clue about what guerrilla demobilization really entails. No one really does... just ask El Salvador.

Within every mission, higher command establishes PIR, or Primary Intelligence Requirements. While most current PIR is classified, I CAN tell you that PIR numero uno for many Special Operations units is ALWAYS "report ground truth". What does that mean, exactly? Just what you think it does. Report everything you see, hear, and do--friendly and enemy--to higher command so they can paint a better picture of the operational environment. It's a job we do well. And it's a job that requires 2 or 3 BATTALIONS of Special Forces operators to accomplish within a given area of operations.

When americans think of the media, they automatically picture vans full of cameramen and reporters rushing to the scene of a crime or accident so they can be the first to "break" a story... which is where they derived their ratings. That's what drove competition; to be the first. In Iraq, reporters try to do the exact same thing, which results in two scenarios. One, they compromise security by trying to rush into fucking armed combat with cameras. Two, and most alarming, is that they simply lie. At best, they get to interview a bunch of buck privates who want to get in front of a microphone about what's going on (which is EXACTLY what Dollard is doing), and they get exactly what you'd expect; tall tales about war. And these get filtered into what you see on Fox News. They are frustrated they can't paint a picture of ground truth, and so they exaggerate the small window through which they can glimpse into an all-encompassing story of the war. It's even worse when the journalist is imbedded with the unit and getting shot at, because their "news" becomes nothing more than self-aggrandizing "look at me, I'm a soldier!" bullshit.

But all that, really, is beside the point. Who, exactly, would good, accurate coverage of this war be helpful to? Over-informing an already over-informed populace who can then argue with even more fervor over their Starbucks? The military isn't a democracy; decisions are made by men, not voters. Voters choose who lords over the military, i.e. the President, but not over tactical decisions. The only group that would truly benefit from wide spread media coverage in Iraq is the enemy, with one major exception: civil affairs. The rebuilding of Iraq. The good things that our military is doing for the citizens of the Fertile Cresent, which are many.

The media is a very powerful weapon in this war, and right now the barrel is pointed squarely at us. Dollard doesn't change that.

Posted by: Brian at June 7, 2006 06:55 PM

WHOA! This rings a bell. I seem to recall my buddy and I felt exactly this way back when we were in highschool in 1990-1992. Funny, we both wound up in the military too, he in the USAF and me in the USAR.

This movie is course, brash, profane, and headstrong, just like our young Soldiers and Marines who have signed up to be in harm's way, and I think they have every right to be annoyed with the materially-absorbed super-REMF culture back here at home. Especially the peaceniks, or, the wannabe-macho types who feel instantly threatened by anyone wearing a uniform.

Bravo to the Marines who put this together. I give it two HOOAHS from the Army Reserve.

Charlie Mike!

Posted by: SPC Torgersen at June 7, 2006 09:57 PM

I'm glad that this guy is doing this. We need real footage of the war. We need to see people being shot at, blown up, and we need to comprehend the determination of the insurgents to kill as many Americans as possible.

Those images are more powerful than any editorializing this Dollard may do. If this were really a good case for war, why don't Fox news correspondents make similar documentaries? Why do they prohibit the filming of flag-draped coffins? Why do most Americans have no clue what is going on?

I would submit that despite Dollard's obvious passion, most Americans would disagree with his extremist interpretation of the images (though only someone with an extreme position would subject themselves to this voluntarily). It demonstrates the fear and hell that average soldiers - many without such extreme positions -must live with. We the fortunate should view these images, and ask why we went in the first place. I hope everybody sees this.

Posted by: rocco at June 8, 2006 12:03 AM

I have to problems with the war in Iraq, I do have a problem with how it was handled and how much tax payers money is being wasted/stolen and how much of it is going to companies profiteering from the war. I personally think we need to go into Sudan to end the killings there and anywhere else there is mass killings. We are the only country that is willing to go kick some ass to help others and though we often cause some of the misery other countries endure I like to think we help many more.

Posted by: BuddyGoodness at June 8, 2006 07:23 AM

About time we dont have to sit thru a preachy, whiny liberal viewpoint of the war. When a film doesnt conform to their viewpoint they sharpen the knives. Keep up the good work Pat.

Posted by: Rufus at June 8, 2006 08:14 AM

A super-sized REMF culture, given the Michael Moore and MSM twistings of it. Good movie to have around as counterpoint.

Posted by: DirtCrashr at June 8, 2006 03:37 PM

People who complain about this movie or the so called agenda that Dollard has apparently didn't really watch the movie clip. Did you notice the music he used? All the fuck you's and if you don't like it you can suck my dick. That's all directed to the people who oppose the war and whine and bitch about it. You can whine and bitch about it not a legal war or we should get out NOW but can't it really doesn't matter. Fuck you. Dollard is showing the war from the grunts point of view with none of liberal bias or censoring or lies. I think the best part of this movie is when it shows that the big new companies get false information from informants who are working for the insurgency and Al-Queda.

And to whoever brought up Kerry serving in the military and Bush didn't, the election was two years ago, get over it. Also, those fucks yous were rightfully placed.

Posted by: Joe at June 8, 2006 03:59 PM

Semper Fi !! Look that up along with "loyalty", in Websters...

Posted by: Maj Bob at June 8, 2006 07:45 PM

It surprises me that they gave a Fuck You to Over There along with all the whiny liberals. I got caught up in all the liberal versus conservative hype and only just realized there's more than just one inaccurate point of view. I thought Over There was the closest thing to the truth to come out of Iraq since the situation began because I thought it was what I think this will be; the truth. Apparently not. Cant wait to see it.

Posted by: Oly at June 9, 2006 01:48 AM

Wow. Such emotional responses. I feel like I am locked in a room with a bunch of pregnant women. Pickles, anyone? Here goes.

First off, I would like to say that this war is not about rednecks and city people. It is an even spread throughout the Marine Corps. We are all fighting this war together, like it or not. I am with BlackAss! Pat Dollard is a racist pig and he killed 2 of my friends. Although they were not black, but he still killed them. I saw it. Pat Dollard is the devil, and Saddam was a saint. (I actually saw a picture of the pope kissing his hand).

We need to take a look at this “big lie? from the administration, and what did it really do to start the war. I urge everyone involved to educate themselves on the history of the US/Iraq conflict. There was/is a lot more to the war than WMD’s, and I am not referring to oil. I don’t have the time to educate everyone, besides, I am still learning every day, but chew on this for a minute. Al-Zarqawi was operating out of northern Iraq in early 2002 (before the war started), this was addresses by the administration, but no one mentions it. WMD’s are defined as the explosive or gas, combined with a delivery system, like a missile. For example, we found a pit of mustard gas, but no missiles. Therefore, it was just gas, not a WMD. I never saw it mentioned on the news; although I was too busy slaughtering innocent civilians. BY THE THOUSANDS. How do I sleep at night…Lastly, take a look at all of the UN resolutions and Iraq’s blatant violation of them. Last example, we found Rolland Surface to Air Missiles, from FRANCE – dated from 2001. Yes, 2001 – these are nasty missiles that France sold, gave, or traded to Iraq in direct violation of UN sanctions. But who’s counting. Educate yourself. Knowledge is power.

Not a single one of the Marines I have led during the past three deployments feels he was “lied to?. The sad part is, they really have no idea about the complete history of the political and military conflict. I have done my best to educate them, with readings, articles, and books. They make their own conclusions. I feel that they are more aware of what they are doing than most Americans who recycle biased rhetoric from miscellaneous sources, from the Left and Right.

As far as the MTV comment goes, I will not defend Dollard, but I will defend my boys. They are the MTV counterculture. Believe it or not. They are not dumb jocks, or frat boys. If you have never been in close association, or worked with them, you would know that comparing them to the MTV society is baseless. These men endure times that most men would say were best forgotten. Their currency consists of lives and bullets. Even during peacetime their lives are drastically different, they train for war, but never wish for it. Every man and woman who has joined the military since 9/11, has made a conscious decision to go into harms way on behalf of their country. People still join after the “great lie?. The majority of those remaining youth, are more concerned with more important things, such as Brad and Angelina’s baby; as is most of the country, unfortunately. Don’t take shots at the boys, as for Pat, swing away.

I agree that Dollard is part of the media machine. Although, he provides a distinct counterweight that is otherwise lacking. It is a simple fact. I am not condoning his approach, nor am I damming it either. I think that Dollard successfully juxtaposes the harsh reality of war with the pseudo reality of pop culture America. Reality vs. Fantasy (are your kids reading books, and watching the news, or watching the latest episode of Laguna Beach?). I base his success on the reactions posted on this site. Dollard put this together to elicit a reaction, a certain reaction. He seems to be using this as a slap in the face. Maybe it’s a wake up call. Call it a reality check even. The whole thing, the imagery, the music, is extreme – in order to get an extreme reaction. These posts alone, from the anit-war, uber-liberal statements, to the Dollard supporters, are clear indicators that this IS, in fact, effective media.

Dollard wins.

Yours in Violence – Lt Ig

Posted by: Lt Ig at June 9, 2006 08:42 AM

Wow. Such emotional responses. I feel like I am locked in a room with a bunch of pregnant women. Pickles, anyone? Here goes.

First off, I would like to say that this war is not about rednecks and city people. It is an even spread throughout the Marine Corps. We are all fighting this war together, like it or not. I am with BlackAss! Pat Dollard is a racist pig and he killed 2 of my friends. Although they were not black, but he still killed them. I saw it. Pat Dollard is the devil, and Saddam was a saint. (I actually saw a picture of the pope kissing his hand).

We need to take a look at this “big lie? from the administration, and what did it really do to start the war. I urge everyone involved to educate themselves on the history of the US/Iraq conflict. There was/is a lot more to the war than WMD’s, and I am not referring to oil. I don’t have the time to educate everyone, besides, I am still learning every day, but chew on this for a minute. Al-Zarqawi was operating out of northern Iraq in early 2002 (before the war started), this was addresses by the administration, but no one mentions it. WMD’s are defined as the explosive or gas, combined with a delivery system, like a missile. For example, we found a pit of mustard gas, but no missiles. Therefore, it was just gas, not a WMD. I never saw it mentioned on the news; although I was too busy slaughtering innocent civilians. BY THE THOUSANDS. How do I sleep at night…Lastly, take a look at all of the UN resolutions and Iraq’s blatant violation of them. Last example, we found Rolland Surface to Air Missiles, from FRANCE – dated from 2001. Yes, 2001 – these are nasty missiles that France sold, gave, or traded to Iraq in direct violation of UN sanctions. But who’s counting. Educate yourself. Knowledge is power.

Not a single one of the Marines I have led during the past three deployments feels he was “lied to?. The sad part is, they really have no idea about the complete history of the political and military conflict. I have done my best to educate them, with readings, articles, and books. They make their own conclusions. I feel that they are more aware of what they are doing than most Americans who recycle biased rhetoric from miscellaneous sources, from the Left and Right.

As far as the MTV comment goes, I will not defend Dollard, but I will defend my boys. They are the MTV counterculture. Believe it or not. They are not dumb jocks, or frat boys. If you have never been in close association, or worked with them, you would know that comparing them to the MTV society is baseless. These men endure times that most men would say were best forgotten. Their currency consists of lives and bullets. Even during peacetime their lives are drastically different, they train for war, but never wish for it. Every man and woman who has joined the military since 9/11, has made a conscious decision to go into harms way on behalf of their country. People still join after the “great lie?. The majority of those remaining youth, are more concerned with more important things, such as Brad and Angelina’s baby; as is most of the country, unfortunately. Don’t take shots at the boys, as for Pat, swing away.

I agree that Dollard is part of the media machine. Although, he provides a distinct counterweight that is otherwise lacking. It is a simple fact. I am not condoning his approach, nor am I damming it either. I think that Dollard successfully juxtaposes the harsh reality of war with the pseudo reality of pop culture America. Reality vs. Fantasy (are your kids reading books, and watching the news, or watching the latest episode of Laguna Beach?). I base his success on the reactions posted on this site. Dollard put this together to elicit a reaction, a certain reaction. He seems to be using this as a slap in the face. Maybe it’s a wake up call. Call it a reality check even. The whole thing, the imagery, the music, is extreme – in order to get an extreme reaction. These posts alone, from the anit-war, uber-liberal statements, to the Dollard supporters, are clear indicators that this IS, in fact, effective media.

Dollard wins.

Yours in Violence – Lt Ig

Posted by: Lt Ig at June 9, 2006 08:43 AM

What this movie does is show the complete gulf between those here who want everyone to just get along and those there that see evil then confront it. When you confront evil, then you see people telling you that the war is wrong and we shouldn't be there confronting evil, the chasm between those two gets to you.
Although I thought the constant "FU and Suck MD was too much and stupid, it was really how they feel. As they mature they will learn to express themselves more intelligently but right now, F-You gets the point across rather nicely.

Posted by: Mr Bob at June 9, 2006 11:02 AM

Lt Ig: I'm not saying these Marines ARE MTV frat boys (obviously, the two guys at the beginning are smarter than that). I'm saying that the way Dollard has portrayed them, his use of music and clips of them mugging into the camera and dancing around -- makes them look exactly like the MTV fratties these Marines (and Dollard) say they despise. I despise 'em, too. But this "trailer" doesn't show anything new, or anything that isn't already available all over the internet (or in movies like "Gunner's Palace"). I don't know what Dollard's politics are, or if they're even relevant to what he's doing here -- if all he's trying to do is show things from "a grunt's POV." But this looks just like that sequence set to metal music with American troops whooping it up in Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11." What the hell is Dollard trying to accomplish? To me, it just looks like he's a just a tourist who wants to be seen as "one of the boys."

Posted by: mulwray [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 9, 2006 12:44 PM

Mr Dollard is many things...a really complex and intense dude, being the easiest way to put it. I have no doubts about his motives as a neocon hawk Republican who believes in American Empire and the righteousness of (Bush's) America's New War.

And I believe he's done a great job showing us that "war is hell" (how come we always need reminding?).

However, his (righty biased propoganda) film will backfire and just be more fodder for the Left: "Look what Bush has done to these Young Americans! They're all raving mad!" etc.

Pat -to all accounts- also has many of his own demons to lock horns with; drug/booze abuse being the most obvious. But there's an underlying problem that's become obvious to me and many others around Hollywood, in that Pat is Bi-Polar and needed the rush of battle to maintain the manic highs of BPD (the manic lows being 'managed' by his rampant substance abuse).

And I wouldn't doubt that he also has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after all he's seen.

Sure he was/is a man on a mission and may have captured something rarely -if ever- captured in battle. But how much of this was about him?

There's something very "suicide by cop" about our wannabe Toy Sodier's Iraqi Adventure.

Thank god he never had a weapon or he would have been leading the charge while one of his band of 'brothers' (aka adrenaline jacked American disposable class teenagers turned wild animal) filmed him.

No...he's isn't as Kurtz-like as he thinks he is; he's more like Dennis Hopper's photojournalist role at Camp Kurtz in AN.

Pat, like the Young Americans he shows, needs mental help, not just back-patting.

Posted by: Dr Sharon at June 9, 2006 02:27 PM

Am I the only one who sees the irony in "Dr" Sharon (in Hollywood) needs to compare this guy to a movie character (fictional of course) in order to attempt to get a point across. WTF? BWAHAHAHAHA! Nice try.

Posted by: The Fastest Squirrel at June 9, 2006 04:54 PM

FUCK THE LIBERALS
FUCK THE PROTESTORS
FUCK THE PEOPLE THEY VOTE FOR
FUCK CNN
FUCK THE MSM
FUCK THE UNIVERSITIES
FUCK HOLLYWOOD
FUCK 'EM ALL
ALL THEY DO IS CAUSE MORE US TROOPS TO GET KILLED

Posted by: Richard Davis at June 10, 2006 04:00 PM

LONG....OVER.....DUE!!

Posted by: Hugh Beaumont at June 10, 2006 07:22 PM

While the pussies on Broadway and Hollywood create more safe generic "entertainment" when they should be creating bold and daring pieces about the Mooslimb cult.....we now have this piece of work:

A true counter culture "blow me" work of art!!

Daring, dangerous and LONG....OVER....DUE!

Posted by: Anonymous at June 10, 2006 07:29 PM

Yes!!! That was so great. I can't wait to see this movie. Hell, yeah, those guys are the real heroes and most of the rest of us are just stupid losers. That gave me chills. A big, whole-hearted FUCK YOU to all the libs the filmmaker was talking about, and and even bigger FUCK YOU to all the liberal LOSERS posting on this site. Watch it and cry, ya pussies!

Posted by: Kayla at June 10, 2006 08:48 PM

That. Was. Awesome.

Loved it; raw, real, and it is completly necessary. The sheep in our society need to understand the reality outside our protected borders. There are no rules for the enemy in this war, only death.

Thank G*d there are still many in our society who very much respect and support the young Americans in uniform doing the country's business over there and everywhere. There is no way for us to adequately thank our soldiers for what they are doing for us, but our society still needs to say thanks. Anyone who attempts to judge what our soldiers are doing while saying thanks just needs to stfu.

You heros do the job any way you need to, just try and come back home safe.

Posted by: Shorse at June 10, 2006 08:55 PM

Why is it that everyone complains that we're not getting the real coverage from Iraq (the ground zero, grunt and average Iraqi eye-view of the War ) but then when someone actually goes and does what everyone wants, hypocritical morons then (in a completely uneducated fashion ) trash a person who makes the tremedous sacrifice to actually do it as "bi-polar" or "suicide by cop" or whatever other pathetic trendy psychobabble smear they can use? Why? Because that person doesn't come back and make the political statements THEY want. Now that's mental illness.

And why is it that the left has to resort to an adult version of playground namecalling instead of arguing the facts on the ground? Or should the cowardly little couch pinheads who never served their country in the first place and who know nothing about what's going on over there, just shut the fuck up in the first place - since they have no expertise. Talk to us about cooking or mechanics, or whatever it is you really do - not geopolitics, war, the situation in Iraq, or what motivates a person to do a job we all whine that no one is doing.

It's so lame, people trying to validate a narrow domestic political agenda "I don't like Republicans" with all this pretense about knowledge about affairs in which they are completely unqualified to comment. Stop pretending to say things you know shit about, including a sophisticated clinical analysis of a human being who risked his life in service - just because of a partisan political issue. Character assasination is a surer sign of a person who needs mental help than a journalist going to cover a war.

Posted by: Tired of Morons at June 10, 2006 09:29 PM

RockyD said "The fact is the american public and our troops were LIED TO about why this war was started - our troops shouldn't be there in the first place. The higher ups had no post invasion plan or exit strategy in place which is costing billions of dollars and even more importantly, the lives of our troops"

Hey Rocky, You're such a fucking idiot....they need to put you on the first plane to Jonestown so you can drink up all the Kool-aid bullshit that you readily consume from books, and magazines, and fucking CNN. From your statements, you show how incapable you are of thinking for yourself. What is this "Big Lie", you think was imposed on the public and 'our troops'? Are you talking about Weapons of Mass Destruction, because EVERYONE believed that Saddam had them and he fervently lead the World into believing that he did. His own people thought he had them. The problem was that anyone in Iraq who may have had any intel would have their dick cut off and stuffed in their mouth and their 12 year old daughters would be raped repeatedly while the parents had to watch. Saddam HAD to go...and this WAR is about more than what you term as the big lie. A Feb 27, 2003, Newsweek, article, provided evidence that Al-Zarqawi was treated for a leg wound in a Baghdad hospital and that he was operating terrorist camps in Iraq. So, I guess Newsweek was part of the Great Lie, as well. If George W. Bush lied, then so did Bill Clinton, and John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy, and John McCain, and everyone else who believed, based on available intel, that Saddam had WMD's.
For George W. Bush to have LIED, He had to be the ONLY person in the World who KNEW there were NOT WMD's in Iraq.
What the fuck is an "exit strategy"...or a "post invasion plan" ....it's some bullshit terms generated by the media so people like you can lap it up and use it to criticize and sabotage the success of this mission. That is actually the "Big Lie" - that wars have exit strategy or "post invasion plan". THere is no such thing as an 'exit strategy' and you are a fool for believing in it. You are pathetic

Posted by: Sam at June 10, 2006 09:50 PM

Pussy bitches will hate this flick.

Posted by: badmonkey at June 10, 2006 10:47 PM

I find it hilarious that the leftists are desperately trying to smear the filmmaker at the same time trying to weakly defend their indefensible positions on the war.

Fact is, "Doctor" Sharon, it is people like you who do not have a firm grasp on reality. You pull out the knives whenever anyone disagrees with you. Case in point was the previous incoherent rants by prior leftist freaks.

The fact is - it is you guys that are insane. But don't worry. We (the rest of America - the part you freaks dismiss as "flyover country") really don't think of you as Americans any longer after watching 4 years of your irrational spoutings of venom and self-loathing.

You're pathetic, you're not really sane, you guys sure as hell aren't supporting the troops nor even the country - you are simply either dupes, dolts, or domestic enemies.

Quit with the masquerade and the charade of affronted pseudo-patriotism. No leftist I've ever met has had any - so cut the bullshit lying about being a "good American" because we all know you're full of it. You guys are no longer our countrymen - because a true countryman wouldn't lick the crusty backsides of terrorists like you all do daily.

Posted by: larnaz at June 11, 2006 01:13 AM

'Seems to me that a lot of folks who've expressed an opinion here don't have a clue. The Marines and Pollard's MTV cracks were entirely apt. Struck a little close to home, did they? Good. Wallow in your pain. When you finish with your pity party, you might want to wake up and smell the coffee.

Mr. Pollard has a clue. Michael Yon has a clue. The Marine Corps has a clue. There are several others who have a clue, as well. Sadly, MSM outlets like the Times won't tell the story. ...even when their own reporters give them all of the material they need.

I do want to thank the liberals and the UN for Tehran and for Beruit. History shows that modern day Jihad was first declared on their watch, and the Muslims have been at war ever since...at least in the "modern" era. They're always at war with someone you see, and they have been for more than a thousand years. The majority of the conflicts in the world today involve Muslims...most of which they initiated.

You don't have to believe me. Do the research. Just stay away from any resource that has an agenda or an ideology to promote.

The world, even without America and Marines, is not a friendly middle-class suburban place to live. It never has been.

Welcome to reality.

Warren R. Bonesteel
Sgt USMC 1976-1983

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at June 11, 2006 02:15 AM

If one is looking for Hemingway's war time prose, you'll not find it expressed by these fine Marines in combat. These soldiers reflect their cultural heritage.

David Hume taught us, reason gives rise to no action. From reading the comments posted, this documentary proves that to be true. War requires action. Actions are produced by emotional responses. I applaud their actions.

Their chant "I don't need your respect!" says it all.

Well done, Mr. Dollard.

Posted by: Tony Harrison at June 11, 2006 06:40 AM

I woke up this morning, and turned to my husband and said, first thing, before 'Good morning'... "I'm not listening to these goddamn hippies any more."

We have a lot of acquaintances who like to cry about Bush and the war, and I'm sick of their sniveling and their whiny disrespect as they "support the troops."

And my husband said, "When your brother was home visiting from Iraq, he said, 'If I hear from these people, I tell them to just shut the f*** up right now, before I have to shut them up.'"

Thank you, Pat Dollard. I needed to see that. I feel a lot better.

Posted by: Faith at June 11, 2006 07:24 AM

This is outstanding. I need to write up a Navy Commmendation medal for SGT Dollard.

This trailer needs to be shown at the Democratic National Convention. Every absolutely worthless Democrat in Congress should see it along with their media lapdogs.

We're not like "you" and thank god, or the whole country would have been smoked long ago.


Posted by: CDR S USN at June 11, 2006 08:26 AM

The two Marines' commentary at the start was right on.

From frat boys posing as tough guys to limpdicks who would not even kill to save their Mom from a rapist, they are all the same - all talk, no action.

In the 30s, the Leftists volunteered in droves to man the Lincoln Brigade in Spain. What do they do today?

They join the typing pool.

They have zero street cred and they know it.

The only response to them is STFU.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 11, 2006 08:29 AM

The song is Blood For Blood's "Ain't Like You" ... http://tinyurl.com/opv86

Posted by: brian at June 11, 2006 11:04 AM

This fits my attitude of telling the left, the enablers, the apologists, the do gooders to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: SS at June 11, 2006 01:28 PM

It was awesome and yet, and yet... it can hardly be considered pro-war.

Someone way up in the comments proclaimed that Pat Dollard would be personally responsible for any young men who saw this video and decided to go down and talk to a recruiter and who ends up in the military and dead. She was wrong, and she was right.

I do think this will definately appeal to the particular demographic. In a sense it was asking, have you ever lived in the world, have you ever done anything difficult, have you done anything real?

She was wrong for thinking... for disrespecting... those potential recruits as having no personal will or self determination, which is what passes for "supporting the troops" among the anti-war crowd. In order not to tar the troops with the same condemnation they MUST be seen as helpless victims.

Well... F.U.

Posted by: Synova at June 11, 2006 02:29 PM

The U.S. Army, the Army national guard, the Army reserves, the Air Force, The Navy, and the Marine corps have all met thier recruiting goals, and thats not counting the 1000s of military personal that re-up every year. These are Americas finest. Thank you for your service. May you get the job done and come back safely to your loved ones. the world is a better and safer place because of your sacrifice. from a proud Viet-Nam vet. Thank You,Vincent Leta

Posted by: vince leta at June 11, 2006 04:19 PM

The lefties don't like this video and what it represents because it scares them. It is something they cannot control and cannot do themselves.

It intrudes upon the society lefties are trying to construct, and think they can control and force on others with their politically correct laws and regulations. This video is an example that there is a reality outside their fake world. Old lefties are finding they really can't control sh_t and its driving them crazy. Especially since they are now too cowardly to do real battle. Their lawyers try to take your property with a piece of paper, and if you have had enough, you shoot back.

Hey lefties, your society is gonna have thousands of men and women trained in reality. You better stop pushing so hard or someone may push back.

LOL - FU old lefties.

Posted by: Shorse at June 11, 2006 07:43 PM

Join a street gang like MS 13 or join the ground forces in Iraq. There appears to be little difference. Political stability in Iraq and surrounding areas will not come during this century. By the time it arrives we will be using synthetic and bio fuels. Blood wasted in the sand.

J.

Posted by: sweet-jane-says at June 13, 2006 10:43 PM


Again the Left displays it's own desperation with arguments that can only be described as idiocy. I know soldier and marine after soldier and marine who not only joined after 9-11 speicifically to offer the hightest form of service to their country, but others, who, after being deployed to that hellhole once already, many wounded, volunteered to go back. Specifically to make the world a better place. This is the highest form of service. Street gangs are entirely non-service in dogma and dialectic, and exist only for individual profit through crime - - to support self-indulgent lifestyles. Being a snobby liberal who wants to make himself feel superior by spitting on our troops by calling them low-life self-service criminals as opposed to paragons of service to their country, is a desperate mental illness prevelant on the left. Sick, sick, sick, and morally criminal. As such, Sweet Jane Says is far closer to the self-centered gangster than our service-to-others troopers in Iraq. And once again, it seems like all the lefties here rely on character assassination, superiority complexes, cowardice in the form of a lack of service of their own, and childish namecalling. All of these are clearly indicative of the intellectual, let alone moral, bankruptcy of their team, it's arguments, and it's posititions. A literally pitiful crew.

Posted by: Sick Of Morons at June 14, 2006 01:14 AM


Oh, and Mulwray is obviously a fraud. He makes statements that Dollard's film can't portray the true picture of an Area of Operations ( AO ) because the military has 2-3 battallions of Spectial Forces Operators ( his term )per AO to get a good picture of what's happening in any AO. I have been to Ramadi. There isn't even close to ONE battallion of Special Forces there, or in most other AO's in Iraq. The concept is entirely amateurish and insane. He is a poser, hoping his fancy military sounding terms will convince people he's in or knows about the military, and that they should therefor listen to him. And if he is or was in the military, then he's obviously drunk - it's the only way to describe such idiotic babbling. Two to three BATTALLIONS of "Special Forces Operators" in Ramadi??!!?? That's like saying we use borrowed Starship Troopers from the last Star Wars.

He also tells us that Dollard only interviewed grunts, as if he was there with Dollard. This was to argue that the picture will be incomplete, etc. While in Ramadi, I once saw Dollard in a private meeting with the President of Iraq, the Prime Minister of Iraq, General Casey, and the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq. He had been all over the country so God knows who else he's been speaking to and filming. I watched him interview some of the top Sheiks in the city. And I saw him in and out of a lot of the top officer's offices. Mulwray cannot tell America what Dollard has filmed. He has no idea. So now he lies.

More liberal media bullshit tactics.

Posted by: Sick of Morons at June 14, 2006 10:38 AM

Must be nice to be a bunch of sicko proud baby killers. Your mamas did a good job raising you. Dumbass enlisted morons.

Posted by: mamakins at June 14, 2006 11:25 PM

To Sick of Morons:

Um, the post you are referring to is not by me (Mulwray), but by someone named Brian. The poster's ID appears at the bottom of their comments.

What I said, and what I haven't seen anybody address, is how this trailer is any different from the sequence in Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" that shows soldiers getting all MTV fratty about using heavy artillery and blowing up things and killing the enemy. Moore's movie was against the war (and, yes, it sucked -- dishonest poseur propaganda), but Dollard's trailer looks like exactly the same thing, just adopting a "hate the anti-war protesters" pose. And what's the connection between starry-eyed anti-war demonstrations and the reality of combat? That the lefty moonbats don't know what war is really like? Duh. So, if they did, they'd be for it?

I'd like to get the comments of the two guys at the beginning on seeing this trailer. It panders to the morons at home that they describe. I have great admiration for the soldiers who are fighting this war, and for the military leadership who hate the civilians (Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney) who hung them out to dry by not providing enough support to do the job they were sent there to do. (The military leadership knew what was needed -- more troops, equipment, translators, etc. -- but Rumsfeld vetoed them.) Tommy Franks bent over and took it up the ass from Rumsfeld, then retired. He knew what was right, but he didn't stand up for it for very long because his pension was at stake. So, lots more soldiers died and got pieces of themselves blown off than needed to.

It's so easy to take pot-shots at idiot protesters in silly makeup, but they're beneath contempt. They have NO power; they're just a bunch of street clowns. If you want to express rage and disgust with Americans over this war, the best place to start would be the DoD and the civilian leadership in the White House. They're the ones who Screwed Our Troops with half-assed war planning. (And they're the ones who submitted a budget slashing vets' medical benefit on the very eve of sending troops into battle. That's how much they give a shit.) Dollard better take a look around and see whose fucking these guys in the ass without giving them the courtesy of a reach-around. It isn't the anti-war protesters. It's the fucking bureaucrats.

Posted by: mulwray [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 15, 2006 12:40 PM

mamakins must really hate the idea that the "baby killers" DON'T NEED YOUR LOVE.

Boo. Hoo.

Because if you don't got moral suasion baby, you ain't got nothin.

Posted by: Synova at June 15, 2006 05:58 PM

Chicken Hawks will be
nutting over this flick.

Posted by: Barney at June 16, 2006 11:45 PM

Wondering if Rob from Blood for Blood knows you're using his song? If you check out any interviews with him, or his other band Ramallah, you'll realize he doesn't support the Iraq War (although he voices respect for our troops there)and hates it as much as he hates whining over-priviledged MTV Babies.

Posted by: Brian Martens at June 18, 2006 11:47 AM

I served in the Corps but admittedly I never saw combat. Military life is a bitch to begin with. It's a right of passage to those who have been through it. Just having passed through the bullshit that gets thrown at you is something to be proud of, not to mention the fact that you've put your ass on the line for your country so civilians, who have no clue what you're going through, can drive fucking Hummers and eat chicken nuggets.

The relationships I formed with my military brothers/buddies were the result of being subjected to, seemingly, the dumbest fucking rules on the planet. It's somewhat surreal to look back at my time in the Corps and realize that I would have done almost anything I was commanded to do and, while I may have questioned it, I would not have felt that I had the option to say no. Looking back at that kind of mentality -- it's almost as if there's a suspension of reality to it. I can't even imagine how true that must be for combat veterans. I can completely relate to the sentiments of the young soldiers in the trailer and they are motherfucking correct – civilians, including me, have no fucking clue what it's like to be them so we shouldn't even begin to pretend that we do.

That said...

What's the fucking point to this film? Is it to glorify war? To say, “hey, the worlds fucked up so we're justified in killing??

I just don't get it.

I do support the troops. I do have a vague understanding of what these people are sacrificing -- the horror of facing raw brutality and the fear of death on a daily basis. I may not be there and I may not "really" understand what they are going through but the fact that they are going through some fucked up shit and that they are in constant danger isn't justification to support Bush and this fucked up crusade.

I wonder if, when our troops and soldiers hear that we think Bush and this war are fucked, they think it means we think their sacrifice and their service is fucked? Well, the answer, at least for me, is no, I don't think our soldiers are fucked up and no, I don't think their service is fucked up. I know it's hard to separate the logic but seriously, our troops should be doubly honored because they are caught in the middle of a fucked up situation where they have little choice but to do the job they signed up to do. That doesn't make them monsters or wrong or bad. I think they are heroes.

People like Pat Dollard, who help to confuse the whole fucking mess and glorify it are the monsters.

Hey Pat, you went to war as a civilian film-maker. So fucking what? Join the Corps and serve as a soldier and you'll have more of my respect. Until then, you're just another 42 year old out to exploit young soldiers for your own agenda while pretending that somehow your agenda is more pure and real than the others. Fucking grow up!

Posted by: Former Marine at June 21, 2006 12:28 PM

I went through basic training at Ft. Leonardwood MO last summer. Toward the end, you have an inspection done by a high-ranking officer or NCO on post. The Command Sergeant Major inspecting our platoon said a few words to each of us as he was looking through our wall lockers, and they kind of resonated because he spoke to us like human beings, which doesn't happen very often (understatement) in basic.

When he came to me, he asked:
"Where you from, [my last name?]"

I answered, "[extremely blue state], Command Sergeant Major."

He gave me a second look and said, "So you're a god-damned liberal, aren't you?"

"Yes, Command Sergeant Major."

And this career NCO with god only knows how many years of military experience said to me, "Well, that's fine, you're allowed your opinion."

My point, if it's not obvious, is that all this liberal/conservative bashing on both sides is tired as hell. Old NCOs already know it and even most young soldiers in my area who I talk to are beginning to get it. It's annoying as a liberal AND a soldier to listen to a bunch of conservative people talk all hooah and shit about supporting our troops when they would never give up their lucrative jobs to join the military and put their money where their mouth is. And it's just as fucking annoying to listen to ultraleft hippies talk about how troops are Satan and enjoy vilifying soldiers for every little fucking thing they say or do like combat isn't complicated enough.

I mean, I don't have all the personal experience in the world because I haven't been deployed yet, and I'll admit that right now, but I do have more than a civilian going back and forth with endless, pointless political namecalling.

My friend who just got back from Afghan, specialist combat medic, also liberal (I'm not saying this like "liberal soldiers are better" but more to point out that there are more liberal soldiers than many people think, especially in the Army, and that liberals are risking their lives along with conservatives), was chilling and having a beer with me when he first got back. We got to talking about a thirteen year old girl who died in his arms, civilian casualty, and he said, "The bottom line is, you don't fucking know until you've been there. I can talk to you about it, because you know how much you DON'T know, but all these people, whether they're like "fuck you babykiller" or "kill some sand niggers!" they don't know, and they won't, it's not like they know what it takes to get the job done."

Posted by: Rachel at June 22, 2006 05:28 AM

America is committing a WAR CRIME by invading and occupying a sovereign nation who was not threat to America. The means of war, Depleted Uranium and othet BANNED WEAPONS, as well as illegal detentions, kidnappings and murdr of civilians as well as journalists, have not only strengthened what resistance there was to America, and given a huge recruiting bonus to Islamic fundamentalists, they have also contributed to the loss of respect and regard for the USA. USA is now seen by the majority of the world as a rogue nation without moral, intellectual or spiritual light.


There are anumber of posters on this board who obviously are cowardly cock sucking cheerleaders for this situation. If you are 42 years old or younger, I hope you are getting your fat cringing moronic arses down to your nearest recruiting office. The age for enlistment is now 42, its getting hard to find people stupid or desperate enough to want to risk their lives and souls in an illegal and radically unsuccessful war. Even by the United States of losing wars of aggression's famous standards.

Come along now you screeching morons, sign up, get your gun and toddle off to do batle with those Muslim Hordes, who frankly can't wait to toast your fat privelaged backsides. Death awaits you, don't keep it waiting. Out and do your duty.

This video what ever it is, was incredibly poor value for the amount of time it took to download.

The WAR is illegal, you are losing, you have broken everything including the law, your own and international, Iraq the country and USA the image. Mission Accomplished fuckups, time to go home and plan the next monumental failure of foreign policy.

The altrenative is, your troops are all going to die in the desert, far from home, because the insane criminal junta which has STOLEN the government of the USA, is about to sacrifice them in the ME, when they attack IRAN. When that act of madness is begun, the ME is going to open up like the gates of hell, and swallow 150,000 troops, as well as all the evidence that they have been massively poisoned with depleted uranium while over there, of course. Didn't you realise the stop losses were also keeping the evidence from coming home? ReaD ABOUT IT YOU DAMNED SUCKERS.

depleted uranium, the crime of the millenium.

Posted by: Rabbit at June 24, 2006 10:56 AM

"I like it because it is differently a different perspective. I think people will drop their jaw when they see this country's youth "getting off" on war and all the shit that comes with it, instead of watching some other war movie with 10 thousand hereos and how war is always a bad thing. Fuck that shit!! Those firefights were probably the greatest moments of my life. Why? Because it takes you to a place others will not go, the edge, and you come back alive and you have the privileage to live with that for the rest of your life."

Yeah, fuck the tens of thousands of Iraqis that got killed by terrorists, American artillery and errant bullets. War rules.

Posted by: Jack at June 24, 2006 09:39 PM

Carlos: Yeah, war is awesome! Fuck the tens of thousands of dead Iraqis, war rules!

Posted by: Jack [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2006 09:44 PM

Pollard is nothing but a Michael Moore for the right. A flag draped sensationalist, ready to film the death of anyone or anything as long as he can fit it on top of some awful washed up heavy metal.

The simple fact that the righties come on here and applaud it as the lefties come to denounce it is proof of what a ridiculous culture we have. I don't have a huge opinion about the war, but, I do have a huge opinion about honesty. This doesn't appear to be any more of an honest or fair interpretation of what is going on over there than any of the other hundred documentaries I've seen. Making a some crappy documentary about the war doesn't mean shit. It is going to wind up serving as a snuff film for teens with a fixation on death. Way to go. You're a real patriot.

Look, get home safe troops. Get the job done, and get home safe. Then you can all piss and shit on the various reels of wasted film.

ryan

Posted by: ryan at June 28, 2006 12:29 AM

What happened? Some kinda broohaha? Is it over yet? No? Wake me for food.

Posted by: 2 Stoned 2 Care at July 2, 2006 11:50 PM

To Ryan, quotes are his, "-" responses, mine. I'm a Marine combat vet who spent a lot of time with Mr. Dollard.

"A flag draped sensationalist, ready to film the death of anyone or anything as long as he can fit it on top of some awful washed up heavy metal."

- When all else fails, make shit up and lie and character assasinate. You have no idea what Dollard was "ready" to or even did film.

"Making a some crappy documentary about the war doesn't mean shit. It is going to wind up serving as a snuff film for teens with a fixation on death."

- You are not a psychic, so you have no idea what this is going to end up as being. And more importantly, you are the reverse of a "Chicken Hawk". You are a Chicken Liberal who was not born with the guts, balls and manhood to serve your counry in the face of danger. You are a stay at home coward leeching off of all that the military secures for you, and make weird, baseless statements about " a crappy documentray", which is just a hopeful fiction of your mind - - since you haven't even seen it. This qualifies you, not only as a typical couch potato liberal coward, but a blithering, blathering idiot. You can't critique a 15 hour series you have not seen. Perhaps you'd like all documentaries about Iraq to automatcially be considered crappy, because they will remind people what a slug, coward and leech you are. Or perhaps you say something you haven't seen is "crappy" just because it disagrees with your politics, which then makes you nothing more than a common, low-class liar.

To the Former Marine Who Says He Never Saw A Day of Combat:

Quotes are his: - responses mine.

"Hey Pat, you went to war as a civilian film-maker. So fucking what? Join the Corps and serve as a soldier and you'll have more of my respect. Until then, you're just another 42 year old out to exploit young soldiers for your own agenda while pretending that somehow your agenda is more pure and real than the others. Fucking grow up!"

- I was with Pat. He did a full 7 month combat tour without the conveniences of the usual civilian tourist journalists, and he saw more combat than 90% of the troops over there. And after being wounded, he kept riding out on patrol, still limping with packed bleeding wounds. Gunnery Seargent Shelby Lasater, Platoon Seargent for CAAT Black Platoon, 3/7 Marines, said to Pat "You have earned the right to wear that uniform for the rest of your life, and if anyone gives you any shit about it, you tell them to come talk to me." Perhaps everyone here should try to understand who Pat is from people like me who were actually there with him, and from the body of his work; not some fast-paced credit sequence clips. I mean how dumb are you self-professed intellectuals, really, when you break all the rules of intelligent analysis just to service pathetic personal and political agendas. And back to my brother Marine, who has never been to combat. I gotta tell you, Devil it seems like you have some sort of complex about never having had to fight yourself. You might want to save your internal conflicts for your therapist instead of parading them around on the internet. It's nothig short of pathetic that people like you, ( are you in H&S ? ) try to deny the plain as day fact that Dollard displayed courage well beyond 98% of the rest of Americans - such a tactic helps keep a mirror from your face that you'd rather not look into. Having seen basically none of the documentary series, you have no idea about Dollard's agenda. Unless you're so much of a moron that you think a few minutes tells you everything. To believe you "know all about it" takes some pretty narcissistic and egomaniacal arrogance. Perhaps that explains a lot of your entire posting.

I've read a lot of postings here and elsewhere from the other Marines who were actually with Dollard. Think of Gunny Lasater's own words about him ( and Gunny is a great man, but a hard-ass who does not hand out compliments like that to civilian journalists easily. In fact, I've never heard him do it before or after ) Based not just on what I have to say, but on the posts all around the internet, the Marines who fought with Dollard disagree with all you self-professed experts telling us who Dollard is, what he did, why he did it...you who denigrate his bravery in order to shield yourselves from others seeing the sad, penis-envy-riddled, "what does this say about my own manhood, so therefor I'm going to claim Dollard was just a tourist, a toy soldier, etc". And the rest of you complainers, for the most part, are the same die-a-dozen talking point hacks that are found on every cheap-ass blog site clogging the internet. And would any of you smug critics put yourselves in the line of fire as Dollard did, especially if you are so "commited' to your cause, and such "passionate activists" ? Don't bother with the fake or itellectually pretzled cutesy answers and excuses. We all know the truth about you. Go get another beer and pick up the latest copy of "People" magazine while you channel surf your digital cable. Yell at the TV. As an empty, mindless box, it's the only suitable audience for your thoughts anyway.

Go to your therapists. You all need help. At the time Dollard started this he was too old to join the military. And I'm glad he doesn't, because if he did ( the Marines just recently upped the age, for Reservists only, by the way ), he'd probably be a POG on some rear base who never again saw combat or had the opportunity to film the naked truth of what's going on in Iraq. The military wouldn't let him. So how is he really best and most bravely serving his country. The whole, "If he was a real man, he'd join" argument falls flat on it's face. 'Cos then you're really asking him to therefor avoid combat and do less for the country overall. So all you cowards and insecure about your manhood fucks who try to make Dollard look as cowardly as you, you're not only full of shit, but you're completely ass backward. Dollard, who tells me he's going back to Ramadi soon, will always be in far more danger doing what he does now, constantly facing the enemy on patrols and raids, then he would be if he joined the service. And for the last time, like I said, he's seen much more combat than the vast majority of active service members anyway. I picked him up from the ground after a prayer for our dead brothers when his leg was so fucked up, he couldn't even stand back up, you didn't. And we'd all lose out on seeing his footage. The reality is simple: he was too old to join the traditional way, so he volunteered to serve his country with the unique weapon of a camera. So all you blathering, small penised, insult minded cowards - FUCK OFF, SHUT UP, STOP WASTING OUR TIME, and if you want to prove what Pat did was no big deal and nothing heroic, then go do it yourselves. The fact that you haven't yet, and never will, says it all, no what fancy words you try to post here to help erase your deserved self-loathing.

See ya, leeches. I think I just inspired myself to call Pat and see if I can go along to Ramadi as a second camera guy for him.

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Posted by: Gunner S.W., USMC at July 4, 2006 04:42 PM

Seeing as how just about everything about the political side of this has pretty much been said to one degree or another, I'll simply say this: After seeing the fast paced preview and reading the following comments, I can't wait to see this set of documentaries (I beleive they amount to 15 hours, right?). As I have yet to see them, I can say no more than that. However, I would like to commend (However worthless a commendation from me might be) both Pat Dollard and Gunner S.W. who so loyally defended him. From what I've been able to gather, Dollard has put forward a heroic effort towards getting his views and the views of the marines wih him out the general public. He has seen combat, seen death, been wounded (but continued anyway) and earned the respect of several marines who have been on the job. The first two, while admirable, do not necessarily say much about him, seeing as plenty of reporters have gone to cover the front lines and seen combat. However, the fact that he has both been wounded (and had the persistance to continue filiming with a serious injury) and that he earned the respect of the experienced marines he worked with... that says a lot. So, to those that post all those nasty comments about the documentary before it's even out based entirely on an emotional response to a single preview, and those who attack his character though they have never met him or know more of him than what they assumed he was like from the preview... Hold your judgement, and open your mind. Whatever his political views or possible agenda, those aforementioned qualities (perseverance in the face of serious inury and possible death and well-earned respect from combat veterans)at least earn him the right to be heard... to more tha a first-glance-jusgement. If you truly care as much about all this as some of you claim to in these posts, then watch this film like you have no doubt watched all the other war-movies and films that have come out over the years. And after you have watched it and formed a costructive and educated opinion on it, THEN post your thoughts and comments up where others will see them.

Posted by: JC at July 5, 2006 10:15 PM

I'm sorry, impressionable youth of America.

Posted by: American Youth at July 9, 2006 08:44 PM

To the person saying that everytime the song says, "I 'aint like you!" that there appears a black person, thats just bullshit. There are maybe 3 pictures of black people when the singer says it. And even in the part when the singer said "I hate you!" it showed roughly 20 pictures and only 2 of them where of black people.


The producers arent the direct cause of any deaths from people who join the amry after watching this. You are just an idiot.

Posted by: Dan Ronan at July 10, 2006 06:57 AM

BLOOD FOR BLOOD FUCKING RULES AND THE

Posted by: Anonymous at July 10, 2006 07:51 PM

Right on Pat. There is nothing political about being shot at. Its personal you fucking hippies.

Posted by: ADAM at August 15, 2006 04:09 PM

I actually feel bad for all the people bashing this war. You have no idea what it's like getting out of college and leading younger men into battle. When the shit hits the fan they look to you. I don't give a shit what you say about the war. What are you supposed to say to a young Marine who's buddy just got smoked? Or how about the letter to his parents? Are we as officers supposed to tell them, yes you spent all day digging a well for this village, and yes we just handed out 5 pallets worth of medical supplies, but when you get home people will say you've done nothing to help these people?!
I was just reading another article about a brother Marine who was actually brought into an Iraqi family. They consider him a brother, his nickname is "The Lion" because he protects them. So fuck you and your pages upon pages of work that say we do nothing good.
These people thank us everyday for our work and our lives. And the movie has it correct, we don't need you to tell us anything. If you have a problem with everything, fucking vote assholes. But remember to vote early and vote often. It's people like you who will make our military soft and threaten American lives.

Posted by: Capt. at September 22, 2006 01:41 PM

I come from southern california, orange county to be exact. Everything those guys say if true. The song is mearly a plyth to the inner feelings of the troops over there. Would you feel the same way if the people you were fighting for didn't give a fuck.

Posted by: mike at October 30, 2006 08:05 PM

I am a United States Marine in Ramadi right now. Reading all these comments raised my blood pressure through the roof. Any of you fucking faggots talking shit about this is bullshit. You are jealous and self concious about not doing shit for your country but bitch and cause problems. You have no idea what its like to be in the Marine Corps so dont fucking talk about it! Some pussy said Marines are "acting like MTV frat boys" I would knock your fucking teeth down your fucking throat!!! If your against the war your against the troops. This is not your war unless you are in it so shut the fuck up about it. You have no part. So go on with you worthless life that doesn't do anything for anybody! Dont cry for me or any other Marines or try to protect us. We know God Damn well what we are doing and that is why we are here. We enjoy what we do here. So FUCK OFF!! We need a documenrary on the Marines. I'm sick of seeing documentaries of the Army fucking off. The Marines are the ones doing the fighting and making the difference.....not the fucking Army!! So good job Pat and hope to see you soon at the Gov center!!

Boomer

Posted by: corey fucking bloomfield at November 16, 2006 02:38 PM

Nice Video, but some of the video is old and taken by others

Posted by: Vandey at December 10, 2006 09:36 PM

Um, gee whiz, I apologize for opening my mouth since "This is not your war unless you are in it so shut the fuck up about it", but shouldn't you guys be hunting down and killing the folks that planned 9/11 in Pakistan and Afghanistan instead of doing whatever the hell you are doing in Iraq? "Fuck society, fuck the media, fuck Iraqis, fuck Spain, fuck everyone who is not a marine in Iraq, suck my dick", yeah, whatever. Also, I, and the rest of America will be paying for this BS war for the rest of our lives, so, unfortunatly we are a party to it it whether we want to be or not. Peace.

Posted by: iburl at February 24, 2007 08:06 AM

that video is the shit. that is real. who sings that song it fuckin rocks..
semper fi 2\5 wpns

Posted by: jose at April 13, 2007 11:10 AM

People who have not been to war will not understand this film or the Marines in it. They are combat soldiers and are apart from civilians.
So far and being publicly anti-war and supporting the troops...
Its simply not possible.
The Communists in VN used anti-war demonstrations and quotes by the politicians as propaganda to help improve morale and as an attack on our morale.
This is simply a fact. Thus attacking the war as many do gives the enemy aid and comfort. You cannot do this and "support the troops" at the same time. People who think they can do both are delusional or politicians.

I think a lot of people think the "war" is Iraq. Its not, the war is global in scope Iraq is just a current hot spot. We are not being properly informed by our "news" media. Since to report the true happenings in Europe and elsewhere might make G. Bush appear to be doing the right thing. This they simply will not do, even if it damages the country.

Posted by: Icorps 1970 at April 20, 2007 12:05 PM

I agree that Dollard is a racist pig. He shot at my mother -- she isnt black, but she looks African American from a distance.
He didnt kill her, but I think he was trying to. I was going to report it to the police, but the cops in my area are all in his pocket.

Posted by: K-Mat at April 28, 2007 09:49 AM

Oh and lets not forget that "little scandal" with the underground Syrian porn flicks he was involved in. I think we all know what I am talking about. I was involved with him years ago when we were lobbying to outlaw the metric system.
I wish the conservative media would get off its ass and look into these things before taking Dollard into its wing. He's no prize pig.

Posted by: K-Mat at April 29, 2007 08:41 AM

Increadible. And Blood for Blood's "Ain't Like You" was a perfect choice for the theme.

Thanks!

Posted by: Deadwood at September 5, 2007 07:08 AM

Fuck you all.

Like it says...

I dont want your love

I dont want your respect

I piss on my fucking generation

Posted by: Greg at November 16, 2007 03:36 AM

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