This is the third entry from former Hollywood Agent Pat Dollard. His previous entries can be read here and here. It is long and a difficult read at times, but it is brutally honest in a way that you just will not find in the mainstream media.

Pat Dollard
Once across the bridge we hit instant chaos. There was a swarm of vehicles and humanity around the factory gates. I jumped out, as did my battle buddy, Corporal Leonardo, the scion of a New York, uh, "family".
Trying to figure out where the fuck whatever the fuck had happened had happened, my guts pulled me toward the gates - clearly the explosions had happened inside. Leo suddenly yelled at me from a good distance to my left, "Pat, you have to stay with me!" ( this is the battle buddy rule - you are a twosome, responsible for one another ). I yelled to explain that I wanted a shot of the explosion scene "I want to get inside the gate!" He reacted with a completely perplexed look which completely perplexed me. For some reason I began to drift toward him. With the melee swirling I "got it". He's confused as to why I want to go through the gate because the shit is right..." and as the realization hit and I continued to drift toward him my eyeline was rounding the rear corner of a 7-Ton truck which was blocking my view of a tiny field to the left of the gate which was now inch by inch opening up to my eyes like a tableau behind a peeling curtain and they began to reveal themselves the body parts the dead and screaming dying as the first chunks of flesh and bleached white bones then in seconds as my rounding approach continued the piles, piles of bodies the howling wounded soldiers, civilians, Marines, the living and healthy horrified helping trying to save to rise above their own shock and sickness a mad rush I was now calves deep in bodies, gore every imaginable body part everywhere hands, severed legs, intestines, spines, survivors guts hanging out brains and gunpowder on a wall the piles were felled dominoes as if they had been arranged neatly but there had been no time for the living to make such piles of the dead how the fuck did they get like that and why were the living wounded buried amongst the dead why were living and dying men in the same piles with the dead why were these piles lines instead of the regular piles I can't shoot the military dead and wounded the eyes of all the dead are looking at me locking with mine "Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar!" he is shrieking no one is screaming it is all shrieking and wailing pleading up from the earth the faces for me to help them there's not a goddamn thing I can do there are nearly a hundred bodies here in this 15X30 foot space I can't believe the endless spray chunks and blood why do I want to look at the eyes again to see what they hold I see through them they don't look real the corpses just like the prosthetic torso we used in Autofocus I can't help you the primal pleading what these mangled must be thinking as we walk so vigorously amongst them what is pain like theirs what are they thinking I am relieved I have no friends here that the casualties are mostly Iraqis not American military and my friends this is just the way it is there is only one wounded Marine but several wounded and dead soldiers blood does not look real for God's sake its purple how in the fuck did that happen what the fuck happened here period there is no metal it must not have been a car bomb I can't deal with this I can't stand let alone film amongst all this that's it pretend they're not real they don't look real pretend they're not real then you can do it and a switch goes off and like a gremlin from the underneath I'm making a mad focused swoop in beautiful hi-definiton determination up and down the lines of happened and happening horror the stew of death I steep in I must be Satan I hate Michael Moore and Newsweek and CNN and all these people who encourage the enemy to keep it up with the clarions of failure and retreat it swells up from my guts I don't think these thoughts they madly swell up I know it's right to film this I think its right I wonder if it's right to film these people as they are Ogrish.com all these shredded dead and dying what are the soldiers watching me thinking do I look like Satan yes I can do it they are not real I can do it I am slipping falling down from my left foot what the fuck I look down and see my boot slipping on a severed leg on the meat sticking out of the top of the fat hairy leg the meat jutting from the torn thigh I jump off that fat black army medic chick is totally out of it traumatized palms out and flat helpless wandering clueless can't deal Leo I don't think it was a car bomb a suicide bomber he says a vest a witness kept stammering to him it was the dude with the vest the dude with the vest as if Leo had been there and of course would remember the dude with the vest stretchers all the shouting and running get that fucking camera out of here I will not I feel so wrong but I know it is the right thing to film this I'm not shooting Americans I yell defiantly at the army officer I see meters and meters away bodies they must have been the walking wounded who finally collapsed he's reaching his hand out to me from the pile "just wait just wait it's going to be okay" knowing he speaks no english but I'm hoping the expression on my face and my gestures will make the point soothe him with some hope and comfort "get our guys out first!" it's clear the american casualties are the priority Jesus the blood is fucking purple "Do you speak Arabic?" the Marine asks me I see the fat Iraqi soldier standing covered in blood he doesn't get that his buddy at his boots is dead he is clearly beseeching medical help jabbing jabbing pointing his purple finger at his comrade laying on his back his eyes very open and staring straight out from a body that lacks any and all of the vibrations of the living what the fuck do I say I see the chunks of flesh on his uniform as he points and pleads what the fuck do I say to this shocked man an allied soldier a comrade unwilling to accept his friends fate I just give it to him straight "Fineesh" I say making the same gesture an NFL referee makes to signal the end of play "Fineesh" it's clear this guy gets what I'm saying but still doesn't get if you know what I mean he's snapped as he continues to point and press me for aid I touch his arm to comfort him and look in his eyes and as I do I feel these sharp sticky plasticized chunks of flesh on his arm press into my palm I say again "No...no more...fineesh" and when I pull my hand away I still feel the chunks pressing like the phenemenon of feeling an itch on an amputated limb I continue to feel it stabbing into the soft inside of my hand I keep looking at my palm for the rest of the day as if I'm going to see the chunks stuck to it and pressing in I swear they are there the death is thinning out but the infinite spray of blood and matter is infinite no more Americans Lieutenant Awtry across the piles is looking dazed I drift have you ever seen anything like this I ask a beat later he looks into my eyes shaken no he says hey pat yells Leo for some reason making making me aware of all the yelling still going on occupied stretchers bounce past follow me I run with him out into the street this is not cool we are under threat of further attack ramadi has the best international jihad snipers in the world an angry crowd across the street watching we are now exposed in the middle of the street I follow him up behind the ascending sirens a hummer for cover the sirens are now my focus the ambulances he says we have to search the descending Iraqi ambulances I know they are used often to transport weapons bombs killers they are all the sound now leo jumps out all four of us follow running out stopping the ambulance ejecting them from the cab flinging open the doors quickly quickly thoroughly but quickly we all feel the crosshairs on our backs clear wave them through rushing back to cover behind the humvee to repeat it in minutes over and over for half a dozen ambulances I realize why Franklin and Williams were knocked off the sidewalk by two small typical booms it was the evil the evil of the suicide bomber slaughter that knocked them back.
After more and more dangerous forays out into the street to check incoming ambulances for bombs, we were finished, and took up position in our Humvee, protecting the road and the cleanup from the growing crowd across the street - a crowd likely to contain insurgents with RPGs, likely to be insurgent snipers waiting for an opportunity. We fired smoke to disperse the crowd. We posted near a tank. Somehow, Britney fucking Spears began to blare out of Franklin's CD player. She sang of dancing and of love concerns from an alternate universe. We had him fucking change it to some grinding Swedish metal band with a song about combat and killing. It's not because we are hateful that we listen to such music, but like anyone else, we like music that speaks to the truth of our conditions, our lives, our concerns. We are not thrillkillers. We kill to survive, to end the lives of enemies who may tomorrow kill our friends. Most soft bubble-dwelling post 70's Americans have become detached from an essential truth of life, an essential part of their masculine responsibilites, a healthy, reverant, duty of life on earth: good, morally imperative killing. The post 60's quest for ideals has led too often instead to a denial of the truths of life. We must learn again to have a mature reverant respect for killing when it needs to be done. It is a key thing to teach our maturing children. The entire structure of the universe is entirely dependent on responsible killing. Killing, the right kind of killing, is good, a sacred responsibility - we need to become men again, to meet these responsibilities of manhood again, as a culture, and teach our children well about fighting and killing. We will have no life, no America, without them. People used to criticize Reagan for being out of touch with the times and pining for a bygone era whose mores no longer fit the times. Well that torch has been passed - it has been passed to liberals who pine for the bygone era of the 70's and it's admirable, but childlike views of the world. We cannot live in a world that we arrogantly demand to be: we must live in the world that nature has actually given us. And a man unwilling to fight and kill is not a man. As I said, we must teach our children well. The era of the morally imbiguous anti-hero is over. The era of the hero is in, and not for trendy reasons, but reasons of survival, and protection of our children, our systems, our freedoms.
The Governor of Al Anbar province, Governor Ma'moun showed up and surveyed the scene. When he left, it was our job to dismount and descend once more into hell. We put on rubber gloves and bagged body part after body part, spines, eyeballs, hands, general goo, you name it, into plastic bags. On the drive back, I noticed chunks of flesh and blood all over my combat boots. I meant to clean them off back at the camp. I made a joke that I hoped to fuck they didn't serve lasagna for chow that night. I forgot to clean my boots. Back at the chow hall, now dinner time, they motherfucking served lasagna. We couldn't believe it. As if I already know how far into an alternate reality I'd drifted, halfway through the meal, which frankly, was a war between my abject hunger and my naseau, I realized that I was sitting in the chow hall, eating dinner, with boots covered in the body parts of dozens of recently slaugtered men.
The suicide bombing was the result of a sea change in the Ramadi insurgency. They say that "As Ramadi goes, so goes Iraq" because as the last great holdout against the new government and progress, (as the die-hard capital of the Saddam Baath Party/Sunni insurgency, it is the most dangerous city in the country, an unending daily battle on the streets) if Ramadi moves willingly into Iraq's democratic/capitalistic/modernized future, than the last hurdle of progress has been achieved. If Ramadi embraces the new Iraqi Democratically Elected government, and works with the coalition security forces, (which are not occupation forces, but are there at the request of the Iraqi government to assist with security ) than yes, the last great holdout against that process has ended. Well the corner was finally turned while I was there. The insurgent Sheiks of Ramadi ( some of whom I interviewed) finally threw in the towel, and had blessed cooperation with us and the new Government - beginning with allowing their people, many of whom were full-fledged insurgents, to join the new Ramadi Police Force, which had been disbanded for some time. That day, at the glass factory, was the first day for new recruits to apply. Al Qaeda, the other half of the Iraq insurgency, would have no part of it, and sent a drugged out suicide-vest boy to blow apart the crowd of new recruits at the glass factory. With a double, front-back, ball-bearing and c4 filled vest, blow he did, killing about 80 people and maiming scores of others. The carnage was ungodly, and somewhere in Ramadi were idiots who thought Allah was up in heaven kicking his heels and doing a jig at the sight of slaughtered Muslims looking to serve their community. In fact, whenever an insurgent commits one of the most evil acts known to man he yells "God is Great!" Well this was a key turnaround in the insurgency: the alliance between Al Qaeda and the disgruntled former Saddam employee Baathist insurgents was now shattered, and they began to fight each other. As we speak, several Sheiks are being sytematically whacked by Al Qaeda. The slaugher brought about one good thing: the insurgency was now a key step closer to ending. The people of Ramadi, who had before began helping Zarqawis Al Qaeda, now turned on them. And closer to us.
And as for the suicide bombers and those who wish to romanticize them as noble and visionary young men willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause of "freedom fighting", the truth of it all is a slap in the face to the bombers and their idiot, safe, distant American living room-dwelling cheerleaders (cowardly pseudo-intellectuals whose only real world experience is in their imaginations, usually provided by the mush given to them by cowardly college professors who also know nothing of the real world; or the towering intellectual bastion known as Moveon.org. Urban Bumpkins I call them, people who tread the same tiny intellectual circles, repeating the same blather to the other likeminded lemmings of NY/LA, who think that trips to Europe or Safaris in Africa make them broadly worldly.) Because, you see, we captured several would-be suicide bombers. All were young kids duped by the gangsters posing as religious zealots and liberating freedom fighters, duped and recruited and brought into Iraq via the Murky International Leaders and financiers of the International Jihad Machine. (We are not fighting the politically correct term "terrorism" by the way, we are fighting World War Three, we are fighting Islamist Fascist Imperialsim, the underlying philosophy of the International Jihad Madhine. The International Jihad Machine's goal is simple: Planet Islam.) These young suicide bombers are drugged up and made to work as gay sex slaves for the Jihad Machine/Al Qaeda's leadership. There is nothing religious about Al Qaeda, it is a debauched, porn and drug infested gang. More on that later. It is cynical old men who may have once believed in things, but now just want to run a gangsters paradise, with it's lifestyle of endless boy toys, broads, drugs and the rush of gunplay and power. And now they want to run Iraq, or pieces of Iraq, to use it and it's resources as a base of attacks against American civilians. They will make Afghanistan look like Disneyland when it comes to Iraq as a terroris resouce center. To a man, we get them story from the young suicide bombers to be. If you are a young man thinking about joining the International Jihad Machine, then just know, you are considred by your recruiters and leaders a fool, a disposable toy for the powerful ambitions of debauched, power-hungry old man. You are a sad joke waiting to happen.
But Al Qaeda failed in more ways than just one that horrific afternoon. Since that day a few months ago, over 1000 new police recruits have been trained and processed and are beginning to hit the streets to protect their fellow citizens, to protect a peaceful future.
The people of Iraq are fighting for a future like yours instead of a rule by gangsters. And if we don't help them, if we also don't bring democracy, capitalism and modern education to Syria and Iran as well (you know the plan for getting at the root causes of terrorism that liberals always yak about the need for but actually never come up ( maybe a charity concert by Bono would fix the whole problem with the root causes of terrorism), because such a plan involves removing the socialist dictators of those countries, we're getting attacked again at home again.
Americans are rich people surrounded by desperate hordes. And if we don't kill many of them and help the others get what we have, they are going to continue for our throats. Liberals must begin to understand that the removal of their oppresors, often necessarily by violence, is the only hope for the protection of the world's future. And cutting and running because the work is tough, without regard for the consequences, is just another example of the left's slide into facile intellectual inferiority and rot. The pride themselves on self-imagined sophistication. It's time to actually start showing some. It's time to move out of easy criticism and into the realm of providing the solutions for moving the Islamic world out of the era of murderous, egotistical self-indulgence and imperialsim, and into the age of modernity, prosperity, and tolerance. It's time for the governments of Syria and Iran to stop blaming the US for their nation's economic problems, (problems their governments created with modern versions of the old Nassarist Socialist Policy) just as Hitler blamed the jews.
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Usually a period goes at the end of a sentence... I understand 'ole Dollard is trying to convey a feeling of chaos, but it really detracts from the story.
Posted by: terrible at April 20, 2006 07:43 AM
periods, thay are in fact useful
Posted by: Al at April 20, 2006 08:28 AM
The two-page sentence was challenging to read but engaging.
I don't really see why you think anyone wants to lose this war. Most "liberals" (your favorite word) agree that the job should be seen through with a minimal loss of US troops, and most people on the left and right agree with that.
And I highly doubt that ANY self-respecting Republican wants anyone else to "have what we have." This is about submission and oil, not peace and spreading the wealth. There are plenty of other countries that are peaceful to the US that could use the same help, why aren't we fighting for them and helping in any way we can to accomplish that goal?
The entry is solid, but just because the media doesn't report every single slaughter on either side doesn't mean they want to lose the war for the sake of winning elections. The media can't report gore like that (thanks to the Christian right), and if it could, would the majority of the public (left and right) be interested? Could a network sell ads during a segment that showed that 80 unidentifiable Iraqi insurgents were killed? I'm interested (thanks to my fucking college education), but many are not.
Hopefully this blog will start a trend, everyone wants to see the US win.
Posted by: Mike at April 20, 2006 09:14 AM
Mr. Dollard,
Great job. I can't tell you how much it helps when someone gifted with words, as you obviously are, paints the picture that has been rattling away just below my ability to describe for others.
Baghdad, 2003.P.S. I see the "bubble-dwellers" have already made a couple comments about your punctuation. Do they realize they're making your point for you? Probably not.
Posted by: Aaron at April 20, 2006 01:21 PM
While I respect your service (I'm in Iraq, too) I have to say you have a bit of revisionist history going on with liberals. It may help if you took a moment and looked at the truth for a moment.
Liberals have a great history of war. It was Wilson and FDR that led us through WWI and WWII. It was Truman who had us fighting the Commie bastards in Korea. It was Kennedy that prevented Cuba from going nuclear and put SF in 'Nam. Johnson that made 'Nam a full blown war (although most liberals believe this was now a mistake). And Clinton who led the nation through Kosovo with a liberal General (Wesley Clark) leading the way. He (Clinton) was also criticized by a Republican Congress for attempting to assasinate Osama bin Laden. And then there are my friends and I, many of us liberal, who are good Soldiers. To go and say that liberals aren't willing to fight terror and oppression is just wrong. We just don't like the way Bush did it.
It's four years after 9/11 and we still don't have bin Laden's head on a spike in the middle of Times Square. It's three years since we invaded Iraq and it's still not secure. Obviously there is something wrong with the way Bush is doing things. I don't blame the troops. We're doing everything we can. Our leadership just didn't prepare for this.
But for all your Newsweek and CNN bashing, you sure don't like to complain about Fox News very much. They show Servicemembers dying everyday. I've never seen them doing a news story about schools being built in Iraq. Is it because of your political bias that you blame everyone in the media except them?
The news never reported on the deaths that occur around here. We've had several people die and not once was it mentioned in the MSM. They don't report on the bad news around here.
Posted by: DJ at April 20, 2006 02:52 PM
Punctuation is for sissies.
Seriously, though... I think your reports illustrate the disconnect. Those of us an ocean away never see what is really happening, so we get caught up in overly intellectualized arguments involving the theoretical instead of the tangeable.
Posted by: Tammy at April 20, 2006 08:02 PM
The lack of punctuation expresses how surreal and confusing a war scene may be. Your stream of consciousness writing helped me picture the ferocity of a whirlwind battleground as you expounded on different details, each more horrific than the last. I am thankful that I have never bore witness to scenes of that nature, but am glad to be able to grasp something tangible (as Tammy said).
It is sad to think that the 'liberal' media, the ones who are at the rear of the battlefront are the only ones getting credit for doing reporting in Iraq. I picture the end of the movie "We Were Soldiers" when Barry Pepper is the war torn reporter who endured the fight and the rest of the reporters come to the battleground after the site was secure, missing all of the action. I thoroughly enjoy your blog, wish you well in your endevours and anxiously wait your next post.
Thank you.
Posted by: Joe at April 21, 2006 11:19 AM
Pat wanted to join the Marine Reserves with me at 18 to save up enough mooney to buy a video camera. His family held an "Intervention" and convinced him not to. Well it looks like he got his camera first (Producer:Auto Focus etc.) and then joined the Marines!
Semper FI
Posted by: Hazy 8 Motel
at April 21, 2006 01:59 PM
It baffles me that a person can come onto this site and claim to know the situation better than someone who is witnessing the brutal reality of it all firsthand. I hope they appreciate that men have died to protect their right to be an idiot.
Posted by: Mark D at April 21, 2006 11:05 PM
Mike: P.S. I see the "bubble-dwellers" have already made a couple comments about your punctuation. Do they realize they're making your point for you? Probably not.
Mark D: I hope they appreciate that men have died to protect their right to be an idiot.
I can't improve on that!
Semper Fi
Posted by: Rubin at April 22, 2006 12:59 AM
There is nothing romantic about killing. There is nothing we need to "teach" about killing..we are experts at it. Our children will be experts at it without our help.
I don't understand your thinking. If you were fighting in Afghanistan with Canada and the coalition I could understand. This is where Osama lives, the Taliban and AlQueda.
I know you don't get to choose the "right" war but maybe you should think about what is happening in Pakistan and Afghanistan. America will never be safe, the world will never be safe until Pakistan and Afghanistan are sterilized of the filth of the Taliban and Al Queda.
Iraq is just a sideshow, a distraction to allow Al Queda and Osama to get their show up and running again.
America walked right into the trap, the bait was damn tasty and now you fight in a country that will keep you trapped there just like Bosnia and Korea and pakistan and Afghanistan hang by a thread.
Posted by: moia at April 22, 2006 08:37 PM
Ok, where to start. Powerful piece here. Shows how much these people really hate each other. But this is really nothing new. The Arab has been slaughtering his fellow Arab for centuries. This is how they live. Before, during, and after Mohammed, they kill each other for what amount to be usually “no good reason�.
As for the periods, get over it. If that is all you have to offer to this blog, you might as well do us all a favor and either keep your useless comments to yourself, or find a tall building to throw yourself off of. Either way suits me fine.
Mike states that the media does not want to publish these horrors because of the effect on their advertising and Christian-inspired censorship. I don’t know if Mike and MeddlingKids are sharing the same crack pipe, but the media is chock full of violence. Kids being kidnapped, murders, gang violence, police shootouts, international violence, etc. You have got to be kidding me. You can do better than that.
What Pat brings to the table, in my opinion, with his recent write up, is the real grave nature of the situation. We are not necessarily fighting Iraqis, we are not just fighting Muslims. We are fighting Arabs. We are fighting a backwards culture. Sure it may be a sweeping statement, but for the most part, we are fighting a culture; a way of life that does not care about human life. It sounds a little odd, so much to the point that the average American cannot relate to this type of behavior without both educating themselves, and experiencing it for themselves. I can see how many people would automatically see these Arabs as fellow human beings, thinking, breathing, and living just like us Americans. Breathing is the only thing they have in common with us. As bizarre as it sounds, our country – if you remember – was built on freedom and tolerance. Sure it was a far cry from perfect, but we have come along way and there is a reason why we are the great country we are today. The Arab has been fueled by fear and violence. They do not value education or rational thinking. They do not value women. We solved our “race� issues; these people gassed the Kurds, they kill each other on the basis of religious preference, and you should see how the treat the immigrants from Africa. You would be amazed. More like horrified, but you get the picture. There is no utopia, there is no world peace; not while people like this exist. If they refuse to co-exist with us, then the gentle hand is not what they need. They are the ones who do not want peace; they don’t want a better life. They are our enemies because they want to be. They don’t hate us for any other reason except to blame us for all their problems, because ignorant Arab pride refuses to ever place any fault on themselves. It is not their God, who has willed everything else but their utter failure; rather it is the rest of the world who surpassed the Arab, leaving it to eat itself alive. Remember, they lashed out at Europeans long before the US. It is not our fault, capitalism didn’t do this to them, the global economy didn’t do it. The Arab was once a powerful people and now they are a failed people. There culture has doomed itself for quite some time now. Constantly moving backwards. Here are a few good reads to better understand the subject: What Went Wrong, The Arab Mind, and From Beruit to Jerusalem. This should get you started. Also check out some Iraq history books. Educate yourself. Try for a change to know what they hell you are talking about. Believe it or not, this is some of the required reading for Marine Officers prior to deploying.
So, in the big picture, it is not about blaming liberals, or blaming the media, or blaming Bush for the difficulty in Iraq. It is not his fault that the Arab cannot pull himself together. The Iraqi cannot govern himself, let alone his fellow man. The issue is our lack of understanding of this war and what it is really about. This is about the Americans, and yes, liberals, who refuse to put common sense and reality to good use and realize that some things in life are truly ugly; some things need to be done the hard way. Peace only becomes a currency when all parties involve agree to use it. Right now we need to make the unpopular decisions, make the tough calls, and have the resolve to see it to the end. If that means crushing those who seek to destroy us, so be it.
Spain buckled to terrorism, and France has had its uber-liberal politics thrown right back into their face by the very people who they thought they were preserving, the Arabs and the Muslims.
A lot of this will make more sense when you see Pat’s film. You will see the utter insanity and the completely illogical function of Iraqi society. You will see the utter determination by the Iraq people to counter-act their own progress. You will see them construct and destroy. They understand two things, fear and violence. Less than 40% of Iraqis have a fourth grade literacy level. I wish that when I saw all those kids in the street I didn’t see them as already doomed to repeat their fathers’ failures. I asked a child what he wanted to be when he grew up, he didn’t understand it, he had no concept of growing up and actually “becoming something�. This is going to take time. Generations.
Pat is doing us a favor by not just bringing us a version of the truth, but he is giving us an education. An education of a culture and a war that most people do not understand. A war that is often blindly criticized because someone in Hollywood, or in the news media, romanticizes over hippie protests and anti-government sentiments. Criticized because for some mind-blowing reason, protesting is part of the pop culture that has consumed America since the 70’s. Pat’s film will do more for us than any other Iraq documentary, because Pat is not a filmmaker, he is not a director. He does not know how to shape and construct a film let alone properly use a film camera. He grabbed his camera, pressed record, and let the story tell itself. What you will have is pure. It will not be pretty or cinematic, it will be as ugly as the truth.
Posted by: Lt IG at April 23, 2006 04:08 AM
Hey Pat. I Know you remember me from the front lines. Thanks for what you're doing. I see that you are getting critisized for it noetheless. It Gives me great pride to see that what I, and so many others have fought and sacrificed for, is practiced.
The right for free speach ...To all who see the reporting of Pat Dollard, know now that I was there and It portrays the truth. Although he throws his political views into it, please understand that this posting is one of many things that he has experienced and seen and its hard not to be emotional about it.
I believe as a servicemember that America supports her troops unbiasly. However, I think alot of people have simply forgotten that we are at war. People realize that we are deployed....but forgotton that it is a very dramatic chaotic war in wich you are fighting a coward. Its not the same ole war that politicians know how to fight. Our enemy does,t reveal himself to come fight honerably and pat dollard is just trying to remind America that her countrymen are at war. Thanks again Pat.-DOC
Posted by: Doc D at April 26, 2006 01:00 PM
Wow
Posted by: Welsh at April 27, 2006 10:08 PM
when i was there for this it was some of the most intese gore i have ever scene in my 3 tours in iraq. when people are no longer people they are globs of human flesh, your brain cant register that this wad of red was a son father, trying to help out his country. the fact they try to justify thaat action under the guise of a higher being shows how they view god and there fellow mans life. and the terriost want to run that country. if the iraqs would except as a life style and a goverment exceptable to them they desever another 20 years of asshole rulership. the fact people where out there joining up though tells us these people want to help them selevs out.
Posted by: willy at April 28, 2006 12:37 PM
Thank you, Mr. Dollard and Mr. Ebner, for allowing me to read the true stories of Iraq.
After reading this story I am speechless...
Posted by: pez d spencer at May 3, 2006 04:32 AM
Pat -
You were embedded with my company, Charlie Co. 1/3, inside Fallujah (approximately) 20-23 January 2005. During that time you went on patrol and spent several nights interviewing Marines about our attack on the city in early November 2004. Several days later (26 January) 26 Marines and one Corpsman from Charlie Co were killed in a helicopter crash near Ar Rutbah - where we were sent to conduct polling site security for the 30 January 2005 elections. Some of your footage contains the last recorded thoughts of many of those heroes.
Stay safe, keep your head down, and watch your six - write if you get a chance and let us know if you need anything. Semper Fi.
Posted by: Spartan6 at May 15, 2006 03:49 PM
"Mark D: I hope they appreciate that men have died to protect their right to be an idiot."
Yes they have, in the Revolutionary War, Civil War, both World Wars, and Afghanistan.
Not every war we are involved with is fought to protect our rights. In fact many of them arn't to protect anything, but rather to take or destroy. I know it's easier to fight a war when you believe your on the "moral higher ground," but the fact is on the list of biggest threats to the U.S. Iraq was never a major factor.
Moia: Yes the Arabs have been at war with each other for centuries if not millenia. I absolutely agree with you that war is a cultural issue, and if it ever did change it would require 4-5 generations at best. This is exactly why I think we're wasting our time trying to lead that horse to water.
No matter what we do there it will never end up in peace. We all know damn well they're gonna act the same regardless of who's in charge, so is there any logical reason for changing who's in charge?
It reminds me of a couple that beat the crap out of each other every night. It doesn't make sense to us because we don't enjoy it, and our natural instinct is to try to save them. Unfortunately when you try to step in to save them they both turn on you. If you get the woman away from her husband, she's gonna do whatever she can to get back to him so they can get right back to beating the crap out of each other. There is absolutely no good thing that can come out of trying to save them so the best thing you can do is bite your tongue, turn your head, and walk away.
Posted by: JP at May 17, 2006 10:26 AM
JP,
With that hopeless attitude and lack of logic you are obviously a woman that leans left.
So, it took 4-5 generations to change the Japanese into a non-militant non-threating culture? Your domestic violence comparision is also full of holes. Modern society does step in and stop their violence if reported. Overall societal violence is now down as a result.
What have you done that has educated you on arab culture to speak with such authority? That's right, nothing except reading some news articles. There is a lot less violence in many arab countries than in Iraq. Iraq has been a battlefield. Someday in the near future it will not be and there will not be the violence we have seen for several years. In one generation it will have a violence rate lower than Detroit.
Then we can say to the lefty lesbies like yourself, "you should have just stfu'd."
Posted by: Shorse at June 11, 2006 03:13 PM




